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Commento di 4113

It's no easy feat to obtain these items. You have to be in a competitive arena team...

Even the top arena teams will take 4-5 weeks at #1 to obtain their full set.

Commento di 13098

Just remember, it's going to be much more difficult to "Farm" the required points for these pieces. Average points per win appears to be 12 per player. So do the math: +(QueueTime)=Much patience. And this formula is catered to straight wins, no losses included
. This will probably take longer to get than the original PvP Epics before BC's realease, because in the Arena, there are no "Defenders of the Cave" farming your honor that you've earned.

Commento di 21461

He's inside a hut on the south side of Area 52. Wearing a tux.

Commento di 25916

you are going to get your class set a little bit fast because if you do 5v5 arena and if you win all the 5v5 arena you will have a lot of points to buy your class arena set

Commento di 34168

arena points calculator: http://arena.onefingerzen.com

Commento di Tangles

A different arena point calculator:

http://wow.alle-stelle.com/

Can do point <-> rating conversions and calculate how many weeks it will take to get to a certain point value based on a given rating, or do the reverse calculation as well.

Commento di 40760

So am I to understand that a 1500 point team is "average?" or is that completely off target?

does anyone know how Team points are calculated? It's easy enough to find out how Arena points are calculated seeing as they give you an equation to do that stuff...

I figure that everyone starts off at 1500 points, and gets to fight other 1500 point groups, and then loses, or wins... How many points are added/subtracted for beating someone of your same point value? and how many points are added/subtracted for beating/losing against a group who has a higher/lower point value then you?

and am I right to figure that the team points are also changed on tuesday/Wednesday (depending on where you are) just like arena points?

Thinking about it, I think Arena may take "less" time to get a reward then it would in normal BG PvP. 10 games per week, ~2.5min games with a 5min queue (I dunno the average queue time, so that's a rough guess) that's ~7.5min a game. so you spend ~75mins a weak to get (in an average 3v3 group) to get ~300 points. OR you could spend non stop 15min BGs to get ~450 honor points +kills and get only 1000 hp a week when you need 36000 for a 2 hander weapon... I may figure wrong, but I think it may be faster then PvP

Commento di 40760

Ok, sorry for the double post, but I ran out of time to edit ^^^

So I'm gonna try to figure this correctly.

10 Games a week, ~7.5mins a game = ~75mins a week (1h and 15mins) and for a 1500 point 3v3 team that stays at 1500 points, they'd get ~300 Arena Points (ArP), this is if I did the calculations correctly (I did them with my computer calculator and the equation that blizz had on their website, which is 80%(.38X-194) where X=Team points)

Now a Normal AV BG nets ~500 Honor per game (if you win), 15min games and about 5min per queue (remember, for both here and the arena queue times, I'm most likely DRASTICALLY exaggerating the queue time, so just bear with me)

So... lets say you do this for 4 hours a week, 20min games, you'd get 3 games an hour, or 12 games per session. netting you 6000 honor points (if you win all of them). it seems like much more, but then you get to calculating for a reward

In this case, lets go with the 2H sword, which, for Arena, costs 3750 points, and for traditional PvP, it costs 36000 points AND 40 AV marks of honor (we won't worry about those because we won all of our AVs), dividing it all up, it'll take you ~13 weeks to get the Arena sword at 1.25 hours a week, OR ~6 weeks to get the PvP sword at 4 hours a week, it seems like the PvP sword wins out again, and it does if you want to stop there, you've successfully gotten your sword in less weeks then the arena sword.

BUT in order to find out how much time we've actually spent for the weapons, we take the weeks time the hours, so if my calculations are correct it'll take you 16h and 15m to get the gladiator sword. And it'll take you 24h to get the PvP sword. In the end, the arena sword wins in total amount of time taken to get, it may take "longer" by way of RL weeks, but it's actually less time spent to get.

REMEMBER there are a TON of variables that I did not include in these calculations, like...
-how Horribly I exaggerated these numbers (lets face it, I don't know average points/time and stuff)
-the queue times per game (probably the biggest variable)
-the time in games (I only assumed these)
-What if your arena team rocks/sucks (more/less ArP)
-AV doesn't net that much (more/less honor)
-you take a break (no honor/ArP for that week)
and much much more

I don't know how exaggerated my calculations, only I think they're "average," but with these calculation, the Gladiators sword seems easier to get with an average 3v3 team

Commento di 41526

he also sells The sword of a thousand truths :D

Commento di 98154

how much honor will the gladiator season1 things cost?
cost in patch 2.3?

Commento di Ludikonj

Season 1 honor costs:

Gloves-10500 honor 20 AV marks
Shoulders-11250 20 AB
Legs-13500 30 WSG
Head-14500 30 AV
Chest-14500 30 AB

Total set-64250 honor, 50 AV, 50 AB, 30 WSG

2 Handed weapons and crossbow-27000 honor 40 AV
Slow one handers-18000 honor 20 EotS
Fast one handers-9000 honor 20 EotS
Relics-8000 honor 20 EotS
Shield-15000 honor 20 EotS

Note: These prices are from the PTR and may have changed in the live release

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Commento di 674828

This vendor sells ALL the Brutal Gear not just the 19 items shown.
He is also outside now next to the Arena.

Commento di zomg5

Death Knight brutal set is included

Commento di 639420

Commento di Thottbot

I know you get these points by fighting in the Arena, but how many do you get per battle? Do you get a set number of points, or do you get a certin number based on how well your match went? So how long can you be looking at to getting some of this armor and gear?

Commento di Thottbot

WoW will use the Elo system:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

in general this means you dont have to compete with the 24/7 gamers for scoring, but simply have to win against your opponent. :)

no pvp-leeching here - sorry guys, without skill no pvp - rewards. for you there are the new blue lvl 70 items.

Commento di Thottbot

first point to the muppet who said 'no hunter weap' -> see the crossbow? most powerful ranged weapon in the game is a pvp reward. getting tbc tomorrow but have been checking ahead to see which items/factions ill be chasing and ive already committed myself to getting that bow if nothing else. pvp is awesome, happen to be a hunter so used to stealing all the killing blows in av which of course is awesome. it does seem that blizz have set the bars manically high this time though. and revered factions for heroic dungeon difficulty is litterally taking the mickey.
anyways look out for me murdering you in a few days in pvp.
Court - Quel'thalas

Commento di Thottbot

Points are based on rating. A 5v5 gives most pts, 3v3 gives 40% less pts than 5v5, and 2v2 gives 60% less pts than a 5v5. Theres an equation based on your rating for the week so number of battles doesnt matter, just have to do at least 10 battles to get credit for the week. Also, all members of the team have to take part in at least 30% of battles to get credit for the pts. Rating can be calculated at http://www.boxspherical.com/arena/index.php

Hope this helps, peace

Commento di Thottbot

omg blizzard is completely crazy
have you seen that?
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/arena/index.html

(2894/(1+259*e^(-0.0025*X)))

omg omg omg
2894 ?
259 ?
0.0025 ?
omg omg omg
why not 2893?

Commento di Thottbot

according to formulas at http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/arena/index.html we have next:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s170/biasha/arena.jpg

Commento di Thottbot

Short and sweet translation (3v3)

1500 rating = 300 arena points + w/e the other number is

1600 rating = 400 points + w/e the the other number is

and so on. Just add 100 points every rating you go up. (except i think it jumps at 2000 rating)

Example: 1645 rating would get you 400 points + 45 = 445 points for that week.

:)

Note: (this is for the 3v3 arena team. Points vary for other teams like 5v5 and 2v2)

Commento di Thottbot

What are the cords for Pinchwhistle?

Commento di Thottbot

The season 1 vendor is gone or what? Might be the 2.3 patch, but I have no idea why he is gone ^^

Commento di Thottbot

I dunno, he's just gone!

Searched the whole of area 52, nowhere

Hope u guys have better luck with finding him ^^

Commento di Thottbot

Just thought i'd add a thing i just found out, a lot of people say that he is gone untill S3 comes, which is in one week from now.
(Only what alot of people say, i have no proof that its true!)

Commento di Thottbot

Hmm... I noticed on my new version of atlas loot enhanced that the season one gear has honor/mark costs next to them.. perhaps we'll be buying them from the PVP vendors soon? Would also explain why this vendor has gone walkies too..

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9654/wowscrnshot111507005407dr0.jpg

Commento di Thottbot

Any one know if u will be able to buy weapons when you will be able to buy S1 with honor?

Really want gladiator's salvation, been farming honor for the last few days...

Commento di Thottbot

This is to Turnipranger, what is that interface called? and where did you get it?

Commento di Thottbot

Is it true that (when gladiator S1 becomes purchasable with honor)10 arena points equals 100 honor?

Some people have said that, dunno if it is true or not, please can someone confirm or tell me that i am wrong!

Commento di Thottbot

He's back in Area 52 next to the season 2 vendor. no idea whats going on but with they would hurry up if they are making season one honor available!

Commento di Thottbot

Not sure, but on forums i've heard that it will be coming out on november 27, and it should cost,
65,850 Honor
50 AV Marks
50 AB Marks
30 WSG Marks--Full Set
...but thats just what i heard

Commento di Thottbot

The armor quartermasters that sold the 70 pvp armor now sell the season 1 gladiator armor.

Commento di Thottbot

Netherstorm, Area 52
Arena Vendor Coords 33,64
Season 2 and Season 3, the two vendors are next to each other.
The season 1 gear is not here!

Season 1 Arena
SI in Stormwind - aprox 72,52
Up the stairs, guy on the left.

Commento di Allakhazam

doubt the price is right atm....

Commento di Allakhazam

w00t^^

Commento di Allakhazam

can you use the gear outside of arena?

Commento di Allakhazam

:O looks awesome!
Even the map makes me get all excited...

Commento di Allakhazam

I know that this is stupid question but can someone tell me how can i get arena points.. do i have to be in arena team or just in arena? thx

Commento di Allakhazam

most teams (the *average*) is around 500 across all rankings, and the norm rating goes down the larger team size you use. You also only get points from 1 of your 3 teams if u have 2 v 2, 3 v 3, and 5 v 5 teams at once...

Commento di Allakhazam

буржы жгут))))

Commento di Allakhazam

yea after 2 days straight getting no points for winning any matches.. i was kinda curious when we get the points, thx for the info

Commento di Allakhazam

Rather easy to get for how good the items are; none the less rewards skill too.

Commento di Allakhazam

guyz how much point earn if we were win ?

Commento di Allakhazam

How do I get this Area and get started

Commento di Allakhazam

Shes in area 52 hehe well i guess draenei are aliens lol

Commento di Allakhazam

Anyone know if these are accurate as of the latest patch? They were supposed to lower as of the start of Season 2.

Vixton Pinchwhistle <Brutal Arena Vendor>

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