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Commento di 6101

(honor / marks)

hands: 4125 / 20av
feet: 4125 / 20ab
legs: 6375 / 30wsg
chest: 6750 / 30ab
shoulder: 4125 / 20ab
head: 6375 / 30av

total: 31875 / 70ab / 50av / 30wsg

Commento di 5027

The Epic PvP set costs about three times as much as this set. But the extra +int, mana regen and spell damage make it very tempting. Rather than waste the honor on this, I plan on saving up for the epic set.

Of course, if you don't see yourself having a lot of time to play, then this set certainly isn't awful by any stretch.

Commento di Wildarms1

This is off subject but Earthfury Legguards (this is confirmed) can drop for alliance. They dropped in my pug and someone else's MC pug today.

Commento di Thottbot

Blizz try to give you more dps for PvPing cause that's what the whining pallies keep complaining about...and people are still complaining. Here's some useful info:

This set increases your chance to crit by 4% plus has more agi than LF...who loves SoC crits?.
I've tested the +10 to Judgement of the Crusader (yes pallies, we can do Judgements), it adds 3-4 to SoR, 1 per tick to consecration, 3-4 to holy shield, and unknown to SoC. Not much, but still more dps. PvP gloves > LF gloves. I have 5 talents in ISotC, and in the tooltip, it says it went from 161 to 172.5 with the gloves!
PvP Set bonuses (6) > LF set bonus (8)
Remember that pvping is not only in battlegrounds...so a lesser cooldown on Divine Shield or Blessing of Protection is useless in general. Hammer of Justice is the perfect choice...(basically our only way to slow down the flag carrier and interrupt spells).
You don't have to get the full set, learn to mismatch. From stats alone, the PvP gloves, boots, and shoulders > LF's. Choose one more to get the set bonus for 4 and be happy. You won't miss the LF's set bonuses. Plus both are yellow XD.
May be losing a lot of int and spi with this set, but again, you can make those up with your other equipment slots.

If compare this to other pvp sets, it's very balanced. I say that blizz is finally being fair to us.

Commento di Thottbot

wow awsome set 4 ret pallys, well almost if only it had about 20 more agitly it would own

Commento di Thottbot

can any1 link a pic? ima ret pally and love owning warriors (who are supposed to be better then me, hahaha) never lost to one in 1v1 battle, only lost when they get !@#$% shammy help. im going after this at lvl 58 (im 57 1/2) then the epic pvp set. can i get a w00t for crits?

Commento di Thottbot

Over all you can't, can not, should not compare a pally set vs a shaman set. They are two complete different types of characters. Thier set is mail our plate. We have and extra 1352 armor with this set. More agi, more sta, more armor, more crit, more str. Cool down on the Hammer is sweeet. I can't count how many times i wish i had the extra 10 seconds. Shamans aren't over powered either for all you that think they are. Problem lies in the fact that 8 out of 10 pvp'ers think they should kill the first person they come in contact with..( warrior) duh! Kill the healer, the warrior will be alot easier.

As stated earlier, this is a pvp set. If you want int and spirit buffs, don't even bother with this set, Don't whine about this set, don't even bother posting about this set. OR go get yourself some freakin rings,necklace and cloak to make up some of what this set leaves out.

Commento di Thottbot

This set rocks, im a 21/0/30 Pally swining the unstoppable force, +crit gear helps alot in BGs, where we cant heal very well because our casting time vs amount healed sucks. With my mace i can crit for over 1k physical damage, and about 1500 holy, which is enough to make even a warrior flinch, making that happen more often will help the whole team, because if you think about pallies hit better than warriors quite often as holy damage ignores armor. i would love the +10 on SotC as i have imp SotC and SoR as is my SoR hits for 140 almost every other swing...

Commento di Thottbot

And trust me, its no problem to get on the regular melee range...

Commento di Thottbot

While this set is Blue.....It is VERY nice. To those who think paladins can only heal....one on one the paladins can beat any class in hand to hand....I see it all the time in BGs..Yes we can heal...And to those who think paladins cant fight, we have LESS HP than warriors, and yet when I am beside a warrior fighting 2 horde warriors....it is ME who ends up fighting both the horde (alone), I dont think I am anything special, or is it that warrior just sucked....Heal me Heal me Heal me.......I will heal when no one is running after me, BUT when i am targeted.....who is going to Heal me Heal me Heal me.......the warrior..nooooo, the rogue ummm NOPE, maybe the hunter...he has his hands full so no...CRAP I guess I have to pop a potion, ...it Does pay to be prepared

Commento di Thottbot

If you go down a rank, are you unable to wear one of these items? For instance..if you become a Knight again?
Once you buy your set you can use it whenever you want, no matter of rank and anything - it's yours for life. The only thing is that you have to be the required rank at the moment you're buying the set.

Commento di Thottbot

This set is impressive for a retribution/holy paladin just like me...

I have around 20% critical strike and I dont understand why a pally need so much mana...I have 3000 mana and is enough for my lvl 58...

Commento di Thottbot

I've had two lvl 60 Paladins, one with nearly complete LF and one (my current one & more successful one) with nearly complete Lt. Commander's Aegis. I must say, I'm much happier with the Aegis. I've tried all the logical combinations of talent specs (Ret, Prot, Holy-buffer, holy-dpser, tank-dpser, etc.) and have fallen into a shockadin (DPS-healing) style with a combination of this set and a few items from high level raids. While I agree the set is clearly best suited to a ret pally, this set will make you very well balanced in pvp and raiding if you combine it with some healing oriented gear. Currently I'm specced 39/0/12. Key talents for this strategy are holy shock, holy power, persuit of justice, consecration, and a few other holy talents.

My strategy in general as a healadin/shockadin is
A) stay alive
B) buff other players
C) heal and dps as much as possible.

To take care of A, combine the huge stam boost from this set with a shield for armor and as much +defense and +resistances as possible (especially shadow as pallies tend to be vulnerable to priests & warlocks)

B) is easy, just slap a BoM or BoW on all the players/pets that run by you

C) Focus on healing first. If you can save the warrior next to you, the horde will realize they have to kill you first. Since you've taken care of not dying easily in A, it will take them a while. Dance around, or run from them to delay this further (persuit of justice & blessing of freedom help here). Be careful healing yourself with several attacking you, one kick/shield bash/counterspell will leave you 100% defenseless for 8 seconds. Once you're close to death pop a divine shield/healing pot/LoH. You'll piss the horde off this way too. Now, they have to kill you before your buddies since you're healing them. Compound it by making them kill you twice AND wait 12 seconds while you heal yourself back to full in between (meanwhile you're racking up HK's from your buddies). Use holy shock and hammer of wrath to wrack up some killing blows on players who are hanging on to their last 1000 health (my hammer crits for up to 1350). And don't forget your 50-sec cooldown HoJ, don't forget to abuse this ability.

In MC, this set will help you stay alive with all the +stamina. I tend to keep a number of trinkets and other gear with various resistances that I interchange for different bosses. Pickup gear from MC that has +stam, +int, +spr, +mp5s, +spell crit, +dmg/healing from spells, these will help you with the shocking and healing part (soulforge belt/bracers, aurastone hammer, malistar's defender, dragonslayers insignia are some great pieces to get). With a little of these bonuses and your holy talents, you will easily be able to outheal the prot/ret pallies in your raid (and they will need much more healing gear to keep up with you).

I hope this helps all my fellow shockadins out there :-)

Commento di Thottbot

could some1 plz put a pic of this set

Commento di Thottbot

For those that already have this set, how long did it take for you to finish this set?

Commento di Thottbot

This is a Mix of Lawbringer and PVP since the INT on PVP is complete crap.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/Willyamm/PVP-LawbringerMixArmor.jpg

Commento di Thottbot

Hey i got this set with the Unstoppable force and you got to remember as well ppl you get enchants like +9 stam or +9 str on your gear so think of it ^^ but crusader +100 str when activated just rox biggest crit so far including seal of command in bg is 1800 and tbh if someone saw a pally hitting something that hard then there be *!@#ting them selfs.

People say "pallys do *!@# dmg" well yeah mabey but people seem to forget the overall damage think of it hammer of justice stunned 6 seconds in that 6 seconds u would of done alot of dmg Judgements + seal of command your talking good dmg i killed alot of lvl 60s warrior without having to heal and plus you have $%^& hot armour too so can take some of a beaton. I normally against Locks Divine shield and take there pet out ^^ and then warlocks = poo lol , Rogues LOL they just keep going at you untill they cant stun and kill em in like 3-4 hits. mages hm depends Frost i normally lose Fire i normally beat cause i have like 120 fire res so alot of attacks resist and afterwoods they go on a mad one.

Commento di Thottbot

Read as much as I could from the above posts. I have 4 pieces of this set, enough to get the Justice Cooldown reduction of 10 seconds. Once I did that, I respecced and spent 2 points to reduce the cooldown another 15 seconds.

This brings the cooldown of Hammer of Justice (6 second stun) to 35 seconds, which is underrated by most.

The default for HOJ is 60 seconds. You try to save it when you can, and get frustrated often when you can't use it.

At 35 seconds, now I open with it on every mob. On harder armor mobs like Frostmaul Giants, I can get in up to 3 stuns in a fight (shield pally)

In PVP, it really throws people. Once they see you stun something, they assume they are stun proof for 60 seconds, then you come back and hit them in half that time.

I don't know if I will switch out this set any time soon just because of the big increase in HOJ.

Commento di Thottbot

I hate the new rank 10 my Soulforge > Lieutenaunt Commander's Redoubt (not Aegis)
Copied and paste from WoW pally forums comparison
Lieutenant Commander's Redoubt

AC: 3375
Str: 91
Sta: 93
Int: 56
Dmg/Healing: 111

Misc: -10 sec HoJ cooldown
Misc: +1% crit

Soulforge Armor

AC: 3411
Str: 84
Sta: 87
Int: 84
Dmg/Healing: 74

Misc: +8 All resistances
Misc: +40 Attack Power
Misc: +8 mana/5 sec
Misc: +95 dmg/healing for 10 seconds
Misc: +3% crit

Remember that for both these sets, one may equip the Soulforge Bracers and Belt, which would add:

AC: +676
Str: +19
Sta: +21
Int: +20
Dmg/healing: +20

Misc: +4 mana/5 sec

Commento di Thottbot

with the new stats on this set its obvious what role blizz wants us to play in pvp... support healer.

Paladins are the most durable combat healer in the game. NOTHING IS MORE ANNOYING THAN A HEALING PALADIN! Im tired of playing under my alts and seeing moron paladins wearing valor, imperial plate, and other ^&*!ty gear with no int...

Every time i see a flag carrier die in wsg because a paladin refused to heal... our our main tank die on drekk because a paladin refused to heal... ive even seen paladins refuse to heal during ZG because they said "they can do hard dps"

Im tired of horde /laughing at us because our players have no idea how to play their classes

you may argue that sure paladins can DPS... but not as well as a rogue or a mage... or a good warrior... SO IF YOU KEEP THEM ALIVE LONGER THEY WILL HAVE MORE DAMAGE OUTPUT! I cant tell you how many WSG ive helped win, how many times i kept horde from capping nodes in AB, or even how many times ive saved alliance defence during AV. When you have a good healing paladin nothing can stand up to your group in PvP... argue with me as much as you want this new change in gear is the evidence.

If you are in solo PVP however you can wear whatever kind of gear you want wether it be agi or str... but when you see your group dieing for the love of god... just heal them

Commento di Thottbot

finaly someone that knows how to play their paladin =), got a 60 paladin on lightnings blade

i personally love this new set =D when u get more dmg and healing, a paladin do overall more dmg, and ofc why do u guys think we got healing spells, or blessings like sacrifice or protection?

try to think a little before u whine

Commento di Thottbot

Yeah I kind of agree with that, as a full holy level 40 healadin, but sometimes paladins can deal a lot more damage than mages and rogues. With a nice two handed weapon and a few reckoning charges you can kill people in one hit, and some critadins with epics can hit leather for 1000 and have a second 1200+ swing with Seal of Command.

Commento di Thottbot

your not able to get this anymore.

Commento di Thottbot

I think blizz did a good job with the new set. Spell dmg owns agility hard. Since you get spell dmg,AP and intellect this set is great for group support and dpsing

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Lieutenant Commander's Aegis

Lieutenant Commander's Aegis è lo Set PvP Livello 60 Raro (obsoleto). Lui contiene 6 pezzi. Ha bonus di 2, 4, et 6 pezzi.

	Knight-Lieutenant's Lamellar Gauntlets (1)
	Knight-Lieutenant's Lamellar Sabatons (1)
	Knight-Captain's Lamellar Breastplate (1)
	Knight-Captain's Lamellar Leggings (1)
	Lieutenant Commander's Lamellar Headguard (1)
	Lieutenant Commander's Lamellar Shoulders (1)

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Indossando più pezzi di questa serie trasmetterà bonus per il tuo personaggio.

2 pezzi: Improves your chance to get a critical strike by 1%.
2 pezzi: +6 Intellect.
4 pezzi: Reduces the cooldown of your Hammer of Justice by 10 sec.
6 pezzi: +15 Stamina.

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