I think I've finally given up and moved on from Wow at this point.I'll be back when World of Warcraft: A Realm Reborn launches... until then... good luck to everyone who's still holding out hope after this. I genuinely hope you're not being milked for money by whoever's taken over at Blizzard since Warlords, but I really can't say I doubt it in any way after reading this blatantly dishonest self-serving trash for the dozenth time this expansion.
Don't look so smug! I know what you're thinking, but Magister's Terrace was merely a set back.
Im here till wows story end :D bin here 10yrs+ not stopin now
I won't say I am not disappointed. The raids this expansion have been great quality, but everything outside of raid has been a major drag full of blunders and slop.I sort of expect a movie/expansion tie-together, but I can't see us lasting a full year in HFC... maybe, but I hope not.
End of this expansion already, well i do hope they plan on refunding say half the price of the game to players , 45€ isnt small money for a game to sit in garrison on cold boring rock ( if u play Horde) or calming mistic forest that makes you sleepy (as Alliance ).Maybe they finally realised u cant milk a game for 10 years on,the story is weak ,gameplay outdated and repetative, perhaps they might start fresh which would be interesting with new mechanics, better visuals, bigger world etc.Shorter expansion dont seem like a bad idea if they actually made it interesting, while this feels more like "we made a bad thing, thanks for money and support, here's a better one, we hope, just buy it and enjoy".Taanan Jungle completly ignores the rest of the game, u dont have to do dungeons or raids unless u do legendary.How did Taanan get corrupted so fast, why is Iron Horde in service of Archimonde , why do they have so many weapons, ships ,... when Blackrock Foundry has been ruined and so many other question that are left unaswered.To be honest i found the blingtron encoded message story to be more interesting than main story xDI spend most of time afk>mounts farming>pet farming so i guess new exp wouldn't be bad as long as they put proper pricing ( wich remindes me Qiraji Guardling is available for those wanting one ).
wheres the story in this expansion? the storyline makes no sense whatsoever. it contradicts itself and ultimately changes direction wiht no warning or explanaton..why are we even fighting archimonde for instance? what does he have to do with anything? we were supposed to fight the iron horde.. we were supposed to fight 4 of their leaders..we only fought 3..and the big leader ..well he turned out to be a good guy..like wth is this? this is your answer to losing 3 million subscribers? complete nonsense? lolguess i can't complain..i did spennd most of thise expansion unsubbing because of how incredilame it was, resubbing hoping 6.1 or 6.2 would be better. I am thinking about unsbubbing for a 5tgh time..but i might as well stick around for the next 6 months to get my moneys worht..incredible business plan blizzard, i am sure you will win some award for how stupid this is.
"Does that mean it's right to have a year gap? No, there's no excuse for that. where we feel like we have to make sure it's right, it's good. It's better for the expansion to take a little bit longer and have it be great, than come out two months earlier with tons of issues."Wod took 11 months from announcement to launch. Wod launched with game breaking issues and broken story and content. 6.1 took months to come out and gave us nothing but fixes for the broken 22.214.171.124 is new and fun but light on long lasting content. a month for rep and it will be done unless you do alts. we have been promised flying. will that be patch 6.3 so they can make the time line look better?1. we paid more for wod then any other expansion. 2. we have gotten 2 major content patches that is it. (not 3)3. they admitted they are good with bleeding player for money to keep profits up.please don't lie to us anymore and say you care about waiting till things a good because you don't deliver that anymore. Please work on building loyalty and trust again because you've burned that bridge right now with players. you doubled the team working on wow how do we get a 10th of the content we use to? Pick between long expansions with a high price tag or just giving us updates as part of the subscription to our game. With this low quality for a game its it barley worth the 15 price tag a month let alone an extra 60-70 dollars for an expansion each year. You wont do any maintenance with out a price tag for players and you chase people out forcing those trying to stick out this slump (hoping) to pay for transfers. Stop treating us like dirt. Respect our players. Get better management. Stop lying to our face.I play and put money into all the blizzard games because I play wow. Because you use to make good content. It not my 15 dollars your going to lose if i leave wow. If i leave with this bad of a taste in my mouth. You will never see a buck from me for any of you're games. How can i hope any new game you put out will have any quality when this is all you can muster for wow?
This was pretty disappointing in a lot of ways. Going to have to talk about this one.
My conspiracy for a while now is that wow devs don't want to build this game anymore but Blizz management are making them. They want to move on to other games but even with 5 million subs that is still a LOT of money flowing in. The sub numbers need to be low enough to stop making another expansion. We have at least 5 years left of this game even if they announced the end now.I think all the wow devs are jealous of Heroes of the Storm and Overwatch but they are stuck working on a 10 yr old game.
I was barely employed when Warlords came out, so I did not feel that I should upgrade. No expansion pack for me until I had a good job. Well, I still do not, but I finally received one good paycheck, and after many long work days, I did not know what to do with my time, when they offered the discount. I still have most of the content ahead of me. Oh, they fixed the shipyards? I will not be seeing those for a while. It sounds like this is working out better for me than everyone else. Something that nobody has mentioned is: Are they going to release some non-flying island with new content? Weren't there three for Pandaria, Thunder, Giants, and Timeless?
Money well spent. Great.
Blizzard has to know it's fanbase is pretty pissed right? They have to do something really big if they want to make up for WoD. At least admit their mistakes instead of calling 6.1 a big patch... When I run out of gold tor buy tokens it's pretty much over, this really isn't worth my money honestly. Their next Xpac almost has to come out free to make the fans happy again.
I was so convinced this wouldn't be the end of the expansion since the 6.2 cinematic just felt rushed."Yay, Draenor's saved! But Gul'dan's still out there... WELL, BYE!" No other expansion left me feeling high and dry in its conclusion. Compared to Mists of Pandaria's fantastic ending quest with meeting Lorewalker Cho and Shaohao in the Vale after beating Garrosh, THIS just feels like any potential for growth was violently amputated and cauterized.
Before WoD I considered WoW the best game I ever played. I enjoyed the level of quality and content and happily paid $15/mo. Now, I can't believe what has happened to WoW. I want to resub and play my characters, but the direction Blizzard is going is not something I want to support. I'm more than willing to give WoW a second try. But I won't preorder from Blizzard again, won't buy on release, and unfortunately will heavily scrutinize what is released. This is in stark contrast to the days when I'd blindly preorder any Blizz. title and have confidence it would be great. After being burned twice with recent Blizz. titles, my view of Blizzard has shifted to "nothing lasts forever".
i doubt we should be taking them seriously about wod basically being over.. so far this expanson they have changed their minds at least 3 times. i am not sure they even know what is going on. I really hope that HFC is not the final raid , because blizzards ruination of guilds at the start of the expansion has made raiding a thing of the past for a lot of people. The story-line also makes no sense and needs a lot of work in order to be "wrapped up" adding a boss that has nothing to do with what is going on is not an appropriate why of "wrapping up". Archimonde is out of place in the story line. The story line was fight the iron horde. We fought KargathWe fought BlackhandWe get to hug grommash, the leader of the iron horde and Kilrog has bene reduced to a puppet.I am sorry, but you do not have to be brain dead to realize that what you are doing makes no sense to the story. THe story is called Warlords of Draenor..other than blackhand and Kargath..what does "Warlords of Draenor" really have to do with what is going on. In fact we have spent more time fighting ogres, demons and annoying plant people than we have fighting the iron horde. Very disappointing story planning. there were great ideas, but for the most part you ruined them. In all honesty this xpac was worse than any expansion prior. Not to mention..Ruining GUildsLack of PVP contentRushed patchesWow Token/Boost a toon flooding wow with "kids" (lets face it, ignorant people who do not care and do not bring to the world of warcraft a sense of community. they do not help make guilds better, they only want what they want and they want it when they want to have it)Garrision (senseles grinding that really had nothing to do with what was going on)selfie camera/contests/twitter (arguably good ideas, but did not fit into the whole "bloody and dark" atmosphere we were promised.Reputation grinds that were the worst in history (especially since there was no reason to do them in the first place)one pvp zone /nemesis (awesome until you made it so we can no longer pvp there. i saw a unicorn the other day)Too much time spent balancing classes/removing abilities (..more so than most expansions..)Rushed Content (.. 1 year is just not reasonable.. every expanson you have had has lasted 2 years, some longer..1 year just makes no sense)That siad, there were some good thingsGearing alts/levelling alts a lot easier ( heirloom collection, bonus xp from garrision missions, levelling potions)Professions were finally fixed (the new profession system is awesome)Character Models/Demon Models Built in addons that replaced memory hogging addons (Group finder - oqquee, Mass Mill, Adventure Journal, revamped map (carbonite) rare trackingMythic dungeons (though they admittedly came too late)Timewalking (though your method of making it work is arguably nonsensical and lame)PvP gear (it is better now)Exploratoin/Treasure hunting Hopefuly, if we are at the end of WoD, you will take some of these good things and carry them over. Hopefuly you actually learned from your mistakes. You claimed to have learned from mistakes in MOP, but then you obviously did not because you gave us something that was the most grindy time consuming thing ever.
one final note - didn't we have an interview with Ion saying there would be more content, that the story would continue, that there were lots of plans for WoD?soo..2 weeks later, what is this crap?stop contradicting yourselves.End of MOP - Wrathion teses he is coming to draenor. He is going to help the legion. garrosh breaks free from prison partially with wrathions helpPrerelease conference - iron horde video seriesBlizcon - grommash last boss6.0 - wration's involvement in WoD has him being a pet battle trainer. Defeat him in a pokemon battle for the future of azeroth6.1 - no he is not, in fact, this expansion has nothing to do with iron horde anymore. Just kargath and blackhand6.2 here is archimonde, we teased at him being in the story (the toy..not sure what you are talking about) so now you get to fight him. he has nothing to do with what is going on..6.2 (week of ) still lots of content, story planned. no explanation on where gul'dans ships are coming from.6.2 (week 2 ) nah, hfc is last raid, no idea what is next. expansion is basically right around the corner. In the meantime, even though you've explored all of draenor and there is nothing else left to do..we will let you fly around for the next 6 months. but wait, do these senseless rep grinds first.6.3 (assumed) WAIT, there's more, we changed our minds again. Grommash now joins forces with wrathion and what we said origionally is actually true. THanks for spending the last year putting up with our nonsense. Here is 1 more years worth of content.6.4 (assumed) alright..we changed our minds one more time. Remember garrosh..well he is dead. but his past self is still alive. Now he is the final boss in a tag team duel with his father6.4.2 (assumed) now that you have beaten allt his content and got your legendary ring there is one more battle. You must defeat wrathion once more in a legendary pet battle. Doing so will grant you the legendary pet "legendosmos". he is not really legendary tho, because everyone has one. Like, all jokes aside.. what happened to wrathion? Where is young garrosh? What hapened to gul'dan? why are we fighting archimonde. Kil'jaeden failed the legion? really? Why are we not fighting him? where is the story, where is the lore to back this tid bit up? you said he wasn't dead, that we would be "seeing him again..sooon"wouldn't now have been a good time to deliver on this instead of making us fight archimonde who has nothing to do with what is going on?Your story line from Mists to now is just cluttered with nonsensical jargon and contradictory events that it makes no sense. among all this we were also promiseda legendary ring/a legendary weapona legendary pvp piecethat there wouldn't be senseless grindingan expansion filled with darkness, violence and war , like the origional wow of oldinstead we gota legendary ring that shares a cool down with all others of its type (brilliant idea for lfr and pug raids. way to go! there is not already enough problems with heroism timing as it is! Totally rad!)senseless grinding for reputations that offer no legitmate rewardsApexis grinding for out of date geara pvp zone riddled with controversy to the point it is not even a pvp zone anymorean expansion filled with people hanging out at there garrision taking selfie pictures , collecting toys, chasign birds , wearing said birds on their headsAn expansion with a story that has dead ends, contradicts itself every new patchan expansion that was suposed to revive wow and instead has the least subscribers of any wow expansion ever released; and now it is being shoved to the side to make way for a new promising expansion.How can you guys in your right minds not understand how these are issues; and why is it , with all these issues that anyone in their right mind should continue playing wow/paying you money?