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Blizzard Roundup: Upcoming 7.2.5 Tuning, Enhancement Feedback, Legendary Upgrade Consumed on Use, Artifact Knowledge Discussion

Pubblicato 13/06/2017 alle 10:04 da perculia

scheduled to go live at 3pm PST today7.2.5 Survival GuideOfficial Patch NotesArtifact Knowledge Improvementschanges to Artifact Knowledge in 7.2Legendary Upgrade Consumed on UseEssenza Titanica StabilizzataKaivex has responded

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Hi! This item is practically identical to the one that upgraded a legendary from 910 to 940. It is definitely consumed on use.

Upcoming TuningPvP changesoffset effects of class changes

Blizzard

As Patch 7.2.5 approaches release, we wanted to let you know that there are a number of tuning hotfixes in the works which we plan to apply either with or shortly after Patch 7.2.5 in each region. Many of these changes will be focused on PvP (and we shared the majority of them on Friday), but there will also be adjustments to a few Nighthold raid mechanics, and an initial set of buffs to a few underperforming specs.

Note: We’re planning another round of class tuning for later in the week once we have more data from live realms; these are merely a first pass. Additionally, we plan to partially reduce the 7.2.5 nerf to Fiasca d'Anime for Fury Warriors.

We’ll share full details on all of these changes as soon as possible.

Enhancement Shaman Feedback

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It's ambiguous whether SS should attempt to proc Stormbringer once or twice. While we normally try to be generous with things that could go either way--one of the specific concerns driving the Enhancement changes in this patch is that Stormbringer's mechanics caused "feast-or-famine" proc outcomes. That is, because Stormstrike itself was one of the few spells that procced Stormbringer, a proc made more upcoming procs likely, and lack of a proc made upcoming procs less likely. This sort of positive feedback in a proc chance (essentially the opposite of bad luck protection) is something that should generally be avoided.

Stormstrike having twice the proc chance of any other button would have a similar concern. I understand that, viewed in isolation, adding it would be a welcome power increase--but that's neither here nor there. As always, the spec can be tuned with either proc mechanic, so the important question is what's better for pacing long-term. If it turns out more total DPS is needed (or even if, for example, more frequent procs would be an improvement), there are likely better ways to accomplish it.

If by happenstance some talent rows might be better balanced right now if we doubled Stormstrike's chance to proc Stormbringer (I assume this means L75 and/or L100), that's something to look into if needed. But similarly, it's not a good reason to make a change that has other ramifications longer-term.

We talked about it more and decided to let Stormstrike and Windstrike offhand attacks proc Stormbringer for now.

The thinking above is still true, and something we want to keep an eye on, but the changes already in place mean the numbers are quite different from the 7.0 version. In 7.0, if you had e.g. a 10% chance to proc from Stormstrike (main hand only), and 0% from Lava Lash and Boulderfist (and the procs were worth double due to Tempest), there was a huge swing in proc chance between using 3 Stormstrikes and using 3 other buttons. In 7.2.5, you may have 8% from the Lava Lash and Rockbiter, and 16% from the Stormstrike, and the a proc causes you to replace 2 other buttons with 2 Stormstrikes. The swing is much smaller now.

Because the 7.2.5 changes would already reduce the streakiness of Stormbringer procs (and because allowing offhands to proc is slightly more consistent with the tooltips), we'll let that play out on live and inform whether we need to make future changes to mitigate that streakiness further.

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Commento di voreoCould of just reduced the amount of days down to 1 up to 35ak then 2 past thatCommento di OminousInstead of this AK system, which really punishes returning players and smaller guilds struggling to recruit, what they should have done was permanently buff AP tokens on each weekly reset at the same rate that AK increased, so that way all you have to do is play the game as is to get AP tokens and quickly get caught up.Commento di ArnathonAP should really be account-wide too. That's the way they went in Diablo with paragon levels and it turned out much better. Playing any of your characters is rewarding for all of them = alt friendly.Commento di olizandreyYes! And we could have a vendor with achievements for cheap gold, so we can all get everything all at once! Oh, and a vendor selling boss loot, and a setting for having all possible combinations of transmogs available for free! You really got my ideas coming. Then we could all have maxed characters in 20 minutes, one-shot Gul'dan and start roleplaying.

WHY MUST EVERYTHING BE SO DAMN EASY FOR EVERYONE, no matter how little you care to put some effort into it? "I don't want to play the game in months, but when I come back, I must get everything for free!" Stop stop stop stop!

Got damn it guys. People should play to get AK, AP, loot, and titles, and with different difficulties, so those who actually work for it will get rewarded.

Happy 7.2.5! ;-)Commento di ShezarrAP should really be account-wide too. That's the way they went in Diablo with paragon levels and it turned out much better. Playing any of your characters is rewarding for all of them = alt friendly.Commento di ToastboasterAK wasn't anything to do with effort. It is literally a checklist you had to look at every couple of days or so. It's fine to give catch up mechanics if it is just a time related thing. It's fine for newer/returning players to be further behind ones who have put effort it, but only in terms of things that require it such as boss gear and legendaries.
tldr: artifact knowledge required no effort skill or even thought, stop making it out to be a part of actual gameplay.Commento di Faede100% agree. EARN IT THEN LEARN IT!AP should really be account-wide too. That's the way they went in Diablo with paragon levels and it turned out much better. Playing any of your characters is rewarding for all of them = alt friendly.Commento di bane957Once you have AK 40 one one character, that character can then buy, for 1000 order resources, a book that is account bound that will instantly raise AK to 40 on any alt. So basically- do it once, then all alts have itCommento di AhndrumonIf you jump in late you shouldn't expect to have it handed to you. Gather OHR and wait your time like we did. There's plenty to do until you reach ak40.Commento di ShezarrAK wasn't anything to do with effort. It is literally a checklist you had to look at every couple of days or so. It's fine to give catch up mechanics if it is just a time related thing. It's fine for newer/returning players to be further behind ones who have put effort it, but only in terms of things that require it such as boss gear and legendaries.
tldr: artifact knowledge required no effort skill or even thought, stop making it out to be a part of actual gameplay.As a fun fact, I suggest you look up EVE ONLINE and see how skill development works there. All the skills that are required to pilot different ships need some time and pretty much works the same as AK. As you get those skills you get access to better ships and more or less (in WoW you only get more for AK, not less) a boost to your financial income or fighting capabilities. Not comparing. Just pointing at something that works very well that already exists.Commento di ShezarrLook...people's painfull cry has been answered :)))

http://www.wowhead.com/news=265855/upcoming-hotfix-reduced-time-to-reach-ak-40

Everyone is happy now....This was quite unexpected. :))) ...Talk about accelerating at full throttle .Commento di bloodmoth13If you jump in late you shouldn't expect to have it handed to you. Gather OHR and wait your time like we did. There's plenty to do until you reach ak40.Commento di InterestAP should really be account-wide too. That's the way they went in Diablo with paragon levels and it turned out much better. Playing any of your characters is rewarding for all of them = alt friendly.The Artifact system isn't compatible with an account-wide Paragon system

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