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Warcraft Radio's Interview with Ion Hazzikostas on the Ny'alotha World First Race and Beyond

[posted 12/02/2020 alle 12:41 updated 13/02/2020 alle 08:40 by Squishei]

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HighlightsRace to World First General

Both Method and Limit have someone they can contact at Blizzard to report issues. Over the course of the weekend, and even during the Super Bowl, there were people working on and testing hotfixes to resolve some issues.

Regarding the Ra-den "Clever Use of Game Mechanics", they do unfortunately need to sleep and they have a different set of standards once a boss has been defeated.

Regarding the Ra-den Pre-Immunity strategy used by Limit, they are bugs/oversights. Immunities are supposed to be powerful, but when an immunity removes a mechanic they don't want the strategy going forward to be stacking immunities.

Because the Race is livestreamed now, any issue or bug is magnified in ways that they haven't seen in the past and it's causing them to reflect. It does look embarrassing to have bugs with so many people watching and historically Mythic end bosses haven't been tested and polished, it just hasn't had a spotlight on it.

A simultaneous release for all regions is unlikely. A tournament realm is unlikely as well.

The term Esports is tricky. The Race is an organic community event and it isn't structure to be a perfect equal race with time zones and patches being a factor. It's a great community event and they love it and want to support it but Esports is a tricky label to apply because it lacks the structure, template and rules that are standardized.

N'Zoth the Corruptor Bugs

Limit found that instead of going to the Heart Forge, they could just heal through the pulsing raid damage. Normally, what Blizzard imagines the final strategy will be is different from first kills, but when it involves skipping a phase entirely that's when they needed to step in.

With the Thought Harvester change, Limit was sending in feedback that it was hard to control where the Thought Harvesters casted. Because of this, Blizzard rolled out a first hotfix that allowed them to cast while moving which made the current strategy harder. This was quickly rolled back and Blizzard went back to the drawing board and came up with a better solution: Thought Harvesters always spawn on tanks. One of the things they want to avoid is excessive randomness.

Part of the mystery of doing progress on these bosses is you don't know exactly how these fights work. As explained on Twitter and other places, the 25% shield and 2nd Heart Phase was a code bug that essentially turned an OR condition, into an AND.

Carapace of N'Zoth

Carapace of N'Zoth was a little undertuned. The damage requirement in Phase 1 was probably a little low as they got to future phases relatively quickly.

The Carapace of N'Zoth bug was a chance to happen, probably sub 1/1000 thing. When a sanity draining event applies to a player, there was a chance based on a fraction of a second timing, that it could basically double count.

In the past, they've never communicated publicly about these kinds of hotfixes because it only affected these 20 or 40 people in the entire World. Now, with the streams, this change things.

Corruption

Overall they've happy with how corruption is playing out. There were some tuning issues.

They are focused on the ratio of power to the points of corruption on the item.

Corruption is almost like a game of Tetris, and some of the lower tiers allow you to be more flexible with your corruption budget.

Corruption is an 8.3 system, but they're happy with how the experiment has played out and it's letting them explore a world without Warforging and Titanforging

The 21st Raider - The Coach

Watching it was very fascinating to watch as being there in person and able to call things with no delay likely made this possible in a way that wasn't possible in the past.

A common suggestion in the past was a spectator mode for raids and when thinking about it, they had to wonder if the right way to play the game was to have someone who didn't even participate in the encounter.

There's no question that your performance in some area suffers when you raid lead.

N'Zoth Death and Cinematics

There are definitely hints about where things are heading in the future future that people will hopefully look back on after Shadowlands

Regarding the N'Zoth payoff, they're satisfied with how it turned out. They've definitely heard feedback from the community - there's some element of "that was it".

A regret is how the cinematic with how the cinematic was viewed by most people. It was designed of you the character), of you the player) being the hero -- they're thinking back to criticism they've gotten in the past such as with Thrall and the Deathwing cinematic.

Shadowlands

Lot to talk about about Shadowlands in the very near future.

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Commento di CanoodlerWhile the interview was heckin' long I loved watching it. Some great insight into the processes being used by Ion and the team to deliver some really great gaming content. I know that some may bicker over the fact that the raid wasn't "perfect" but the fact that employees and developers are taking the time to watch along and fix stuff on the fly like that really goes above and beyond in terms of dedication. It blows my mind when people say "they don't care" of course they do.Commento di VidyaschmoeRegarding the N'Zoth payoff, they're satisfied with how it turned outCommento di EzyahCorruption has some interesting ideas but you can say it needs a LOT of polishing and needs less RNG layer around it. What's fun is actually min maxing your corruption , not hoping for a good proc...Commento di WasselinThe interview is worth watching and this summary doesn't do it justice. It was a very candid interview.

The answers about corruption though do make me worry going forward. They seem to be trying to make gearing so complicated that it's impossible to sim-- but that makes it hard for players too. He doesn't even really touch on the real problem with it though, which is the multiple layers of RNG that make it feel like you have no control as a player.Commento di MightylorddkBlizzard gave what we don't deserves. We should be licking big character's feet while they get the killing blow on our hard earned boss kill.Commento di DemowareKinda a yikes if they're satisfied with N'zoth and corruption when their player base dislikes the system.Commento di JCarr178all-in-all a pretty good interview, it is nice to see ion being more straight forward in his communications than maybe we've seen in the past.

Regarding his opinion on corruption:
I too like corruption, I especially like that you can get by with a few pieces, instead of titan forging where you wanted ALL of your gear to be titan forged. So in that regard I think the system is great. I also didn't think I would enjoy the negative effects, but I do think it adds a really great dynamic to the game that makes you think about your choices more.

But I think that when you add negative effects to items, you need to make sure the rewards are significant. I would have liked to see them focus more on buffing underperforming traits than dishing out nerfs to the good ones. Also, they just added WAY TOO MANY effects, so getting the ones you want is very very difficult. Also I think certain effects should be spec based. I don't want tank traits on my DPS gear.

That said, Yes echoing void was really powerful, but I also die a lot to the thing from beyond, and the eye of corruption, and the slows that proc constantly are annoying as all hell and make it hard to get out of the way of mechanics. Why would I want to deal with all this negative if the positives do not deal a lot of powerful benefits?Commento di WatcherJoshuaThis might be the best interview with Ion that I have ever listened to. It deserves more attention than it is receiving. I highly recommend watching/listening to the full interview - don't just read the summary.Commento di bigityCorruption has some interesting ideas but you can say it needs a LOT of polishing and needs less RNG layer around it. What's fun is actually min maxing your corruption , not hoping for a good proc...Commento di nik666Regarding the N'Zoth payoff, they're satisfied with how it turned out. Commento di qaccy

Yes. It is effectively the same RNG as war/titan forging with some different colors on it. It feels bad to get a kick ass upgrade you can't use (or have to cripple by removing the corruption) until you can wait for a time gated cloak upgrade.Commento di kimmuryielA regret is how the cinematic with how the cinematic was viewed by most people. It was designed of you the character), of you the player) being the hero -- they're thinking back to criticism they've gotten in the past such as with Thrall and the Deathwing cinematic.Commento di couchpotato2013Corruption = reforging. Only now you have to work on 3 more layers of RNG than we had for Cata. Hell with the m+ cache box being random that is 4 layers of rng right there already (item, socket, corruption, level of corruption).

The system has a lot of promise, but seriously they need to add in a void-forge (hell reuse the assets from mythic n’zoth heartforge/staging ground before horrific visions, and have us imbue corruption (with randomness of course)) into specific items). Like there is no reason why we can’t have 3 stages of a such a system (x amount of momentos = tier 1, y = tier 2, and z = tier 3, with 2 and 3 tiers obviously costing more and yes again being random to fit the theme of void being chaotic). If you don’t like the corruption you can then always cleanse it off like how we have now.Commento di Olympus3129Corruption has some interesting ideas but you can say it needs a LOT of polishing and needs less RNG layer around it. What's fun is actually min maxing your corruption , not hoping for a good proc...Commento di AarkanThe main problem with corruption would be solved if every s4 item had it and they all scaled with ilvl.Commento di EasoJust a reminder - ending cinematic is still unlisted and disliked into the ground.
Ion sure has his lawyer speech...Commento di SeleriI understand why they made the N'zoth end cinematic the way they did, but I'd much rather have cinematics like Thrall blasting Deathwing and Illidan killing Gul'dan. Making the player character so prominent in major events is the worst thing to happen to WoW, imo.Commento di prophet001This might be the best interview with Ion that I have ever listened to. It deserves more attention than it is receiving. I highly recommend watching/listening to the full interview - don't just read the summary.Commento di TehLucarioCorruption has some interesting ideas but you can say it needs a LOT of polishing and needs less RNG layer around it. What's fun is actually min maxing your corruption , not hoping for a good proc...Commento di Matrixwolfqueen ashara mentions in the Ny'alotha that she is going for a bigger throne, also this xpac mentions helya is alive, what if Queen Azshara dethrones helya?

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