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Commento di TheOnyx

Mograine is located inside the actual Cathedral in the Cathedral Wing of Scarlet Monastery.

Before engaging Mograine, make sure you clear out everyone else inside the Cathedral, including the groups in the side wings.

Once you defeat Mograine, High Inquisitor Whitemane (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/npc=3977) will appear. Once you get her to around 50% health, she'll sleep the entire party, resurrect Mograine, then heal herself. At this point, taking out Whitemane first is advised, since she heals.

Commento di LKolmir

Mograine is not lootable until after he is killed the second time. If you have a level 60 running the instance with you they should back off the DPS once Whitemane has appeared to prevent killing her before the scripted event occurs.

Commento di WildW

Be carefull not to nuke this fight, but to do it slow and mana efficient, at least during the first kill of Mograine.

Commento di 30651

Can he be Seduced?

Commento di 35367

I've been doing this with my shaman with jsut 4 man parties.
Once with a 42 Warrior, 41 Shaman, 41 Druid and me ( 35 ).
Later on I did this with: 43(dinged 44) Shaman, 41(dinged 42) Shaman, 39 paladin and me ( 37 that time ). Both runs were fast and easy. With the first party we were able to do 2 runs within 1hour, with the second party , I couldn't complete the 2 run because I had to go, but we managed to do the first run within 35mins :)

Good Luck to everyone; and some advice:
Kill Mograine the first time _as soon as possible_
When the lady arrives, just steady dps on her, no mana waste if possible, till she sleeps the party.
Third and last advice; kill the lady first and interrupt her heals, also dispell her shield ( if you have a shaman or priest in your party ).

:)

-Calacun

Commento di Vlad

If you boost (high level) do not kill him, then kill the High Inquisitor Whitemane before she has ressed him, or else you won't get his loot. He will remain "dead" but still show for Humanoid tracking classes on the minimap as alive..

Had to re-boost my friend cause I killed her too quick, before she slept us and ressed him. :P

Commento di sacredxavier

You're in for a big surprise if you dont kill all the mobs in the cathedral first.

first time i did this with a 70 rogue, he chose not to kill everyone and when he aggroed...

everyone else that remained in the cathedral aggroed, too.
yeowch. realised no one mentioned the consequences of not killing everyone, but mind you it's gonna be close to a sure wipe if you don't clear everyone first.

Commento di Thottbot

Do NOT kill the chick before she can revive Mograine, then the fights over and you can't loot Mograine...plus you get stuck in combat.

Commento di Thottbot

True .. dont kill her or he wont drop a thing.. .but .. you do not get stuck in combat! If that person got stuck in combat its not consistent. I killed her before she could rezz him and our party was not stuck in combat.

Commento di Thottbot

Whitemane (the "chick") will start to rez Mograine at just under 50% health. She will put everyone to sleep then heal herself full. My hubby and I were duoing her (2 level 46 shammys) and apparently Windfury went a little crazy. She died before she even rezzed him - It was great! She dropped 2 blue items that time: 1 BoP and 1 BoE. I thought that was because we killed her and were chinced on the loot from him, but we got 2 other blue BoE items that run, in just the cathedral. Guess it was our lucky instance :)

Commento di Thottbot

The drop list includes some epics, has anyone ever seen epics drop?

Commento di Thottbot

it took me about 12 boring runs of SM cath, asking all my lvl 60 friends, owing them favours....i have a mograines might!

Commento di Thottbot

This thing rules it beats Verigan's Fist by an ass-load

Commento di Thottbot

Has anyone else had trouble with this fight since 1.11?

Every time I've gone in there with a group recently, the mobs in the Cathedral start to respawn soon after Whitemane rezzes Mograine. We're clearing them out FAST too, right after we kill one group we're pulling the next without even waiting for people to get mana back. Not wasting a lot of time explaining the fight to people.

No extra delays at all clearing the Cathedral, and yet EVERY time we've wiped. We can manage to kill off Whitemane, but then we end up with 2-3 respawns aggroing on us, healing Mograine, and we die.

WTF?

Commento di Thottbot

I have ran my 60 through there about 4 times in the past 2 days. No problems with respawns in the cathedral.

Commento di Thottbot

I didnt have a problem i did it and no respawns...

Commento di Thottbot

A 60 pally solod this dungeon easy plus Mograin and i didnt have a problem when i went to kill him no respawn for me.

Commento di Thottbot

Mograine is the son of Ashbringer Mograine, the creater of SC and the undead slayer. He was betrayed and murdered by his own son who now commands Scarlet monastry. enjoy killing.

Commento di Thottbot

Actually you get to meet the father Mograine in Naxxramas now =] one of the last bosses in the Death Knight wing. If you kill him last, he drops Corrupted Ashbringer (uber sword but the -25 stamina kinda makes it bad for tanking) which leads up to a "secret" quest that lets you talk to the son and watch a cool event in which mograine's ghost talks to his son and revenges him.

Commento di Thottbot

Mograine would easily solo Herod. A level 40 pally can solo herod without a problem. Every time he gets attacked he uses that bladed of light and spins round. This is where you heal yourself if you are low. In mograines case, he also bubbles himself so he wouldnt lose against a non healer unless herod could silence.

Commento di Thottbot

I got the mace very good although ravager is much better

Commento di Thottbot

A weapon of unmatched power that was created by the Archmage Timolain. It is unknown if the blade had a name before coming into the possession of the Highlord of the Scarlet Crusade, Mograine. Mograine's tenacity in battle was legendary even within the ranks of the fledgeling Scarlet Crusade, who at that time was a noble order. Those under his command coined the nickname "Ashbringer" as they watched him wade into ranks of foul undead wielding powerful Light-borne magic and leaving only ashes in his wake. Legend has it that Highlord Mograine was betrayed by his own son, Renault Morgraine, who had set up a deal with Kel'Thuzad which led to the assassination of his father, Highlord Mograine. The younger Morgraine led his father and High Inquisitor Fairbanks into the Scouge bastion of Stratholme. While thousands of Scourge ambushed the warriors, Renault Morgraine fled and hid. The Ashbringer fought off the Scourge, smiting them as fast as they came. But more came, thousands of Scourge in groups came. Fairbanks was the first to fall, but the Scourge ignored him, completely focused on killing Highlord Mograine. Highlord Morgraine fought off all the Scourge, Fairbanks feigning death and being buried beneath the bodies of the Scourge. Highlord Morgraine, after killing the remaining scourge, started to search for Fairbanks. While his back was turned, his son stole Ashbringer and stabbed his father in the back. "What have you done, Renault? Why would you do this?" were the last words of the Ashbringer, who fell down, dead. High Inquisitor Fairbanks broke through the bodies after two days. He ran back to the Scarlet Monastery, and started shouting out what had happened. He was murdered in cold blood and dragged to a chamber to die. But some people listened; thus was formed the Argent Dawn.
The Corrupted Ashbringer is found within the Chest of the Four Horseman in Naxxramas. If you equip the sword and go to the Cathedral at the Scarlet Monastery, every NPC will kneel to you until you get to Scarlet Commander Mograine. He will kneel to you, and then his father, Highlord Mograine, will appear as a ghost. He will walk up to his son and mock his betrayal, then kill him.
With the inclusion of the Caverns of Time instance, Old Hillsbrad, further insight can be gleaned on the origins of the Ashbringer by visiting the Inn at Southshore and witnessing the discussions of Mograine and his companions.

Part of this is article I cut out, Theres one part just to juicy to share.

Commento di Allakhazam

Yeah, this guys was one heck of problem for our group! 1st we never knew he will call all the guards inside the chapel to defend him, which was insane! 2nd time we came in we cleared up the chapel then tried killing him, DO NOT DRAG him out of the chapel, because he suppose to be res'd by priestess inside the chapel after u kill the commander... When we dragged him out and slain him, he just lay dead, but not dead, glitched... After we retried, and let the priestess res him, and fight both the commander and priestes... Kill priestess 1st, since she heals the commander, gl and hf with him guys, lol!

Commento di Allakhazam

Just killed him with my 40 lvl tauren warrior.Pretty easy.He didn`t had a chance.I killed him with logouts.When you logout and join again your health is full ;ppppp

Commento di Allakhazam

can a 60 hunter with maderat gear not t1 but stuff from scholo ubrs and strat i need to get the shards from the loot?

Commento di Allakhazam

solo'd with a 60 combat rogue. figured it was worth a try, i was farming SM for the mail set.

Commento di Allakhazam

This guy is a pain sometimes
After you kill him Whitemane comes out and after a few hits on her she stuns the party and goes and revives Mograin
But all in all
He drops well
For lower levels that is

Commento di Allakhazam

Please could we get everyone to use this forum to exchange info about mobs/stages/instances instead of posting brag-statements or likewise.

I was trying to find the exact repop time on the cathedral mobs, looks to me like its around 30 min, but the 2 times we where there to try and duo it (me, pally 44, druid 43), i didnt time it exaxtly.

Commento di Allakhazam

This is what I learned last night fighting this behemoth of a monster...

From a 1st time SM Armory Lv34 Lock's point of view...

1st - when he starts spinning, stay away...he'll kill ya. I lost 2 pet demons and a Compact Harvest Reaper to this thing. Our tank and others knew what they were doing and were wise enough to stay out of his spin range when he went bezerk.

2nd - When he's spinning - he's relatively immune to your DOTs...so wait until he stops spinning to DOT him. I was out of mana like crazy without realizing why. halfway though the battle, I noticed, ah, he's immune when he's spinning. So during his down times, I DOT'd him like mad and sent in a for added damage (not much...but every little bit helped).

3rd - I didn't even know he got rezzed...but apparently he does and did?

4th - As already mentioned, once he dies, two seperate groups of trainees come pouring out charging you...AOE helps but I guess the other players took care of them rather quickly.

Anyhow, just thought I'd share a few things I learned.

Fox

Commento di Allakhazam

I decided it would be good to go through Cathedral for my first time. All we had was lvl 35 warrior, 39 warrior, 40 priest, 45 hunter. Did we do good? Also i got Morograines might. Cant wait to use it. Hoping i get Fiery War Axe cause all im gonna do is run SM till im lvl 45. Hopefully ill get the axe before then.

Commento di Allakhazam

This guy is located in the armory. He uses a ravager amd when he does a bladestorm-like attack... he is immune( really annoying ). After you beat the stuffing out of this guy about 20-30 of his students come out( lvl 30 non-elites ) come out all at once and attack you.

Commento di Allakhazam

ran cath today. he dropped leggings and she dropped her hat. i was very disspaointed.

Commento di Allakhazam

woops... never mind. This is mograine. LOL my mistake. Mograine is located in the Cathedral. AFter u slaughter him, Whitemane comes out. AFter you attack her enough until she has half health...she makes everyone fall asleep and then ressurects Mograine so you basically kill him twice.

Commento di Allakhazam

Highlord Mograine is one of the four horsemen in Naxxramas if anybody is interested.

Commento di Allakhazam

lol our warlock lvl 60 dotted the priest up and we couldnt loot this guy because she died before ressing :DASD

Commento di Allakhazam

It took me about 2 hours in the Cath to solo it with my 49 Hunter.

So you hunters out there give it a try! Its fun and challenging. My guildmates were telling me it was impossible at 49 and they weren't able to do it till about 55+. That was enough motivation to figure out how to do it! Have fun.

Edited, Sep 5th 2006 at 6:56pm EDT by RaziAlaster

Commento di Allakhazam

iv just run cath twice in as many days and i cant get either the sheild or gloves. i really want da sheild though and knock on wood, but id say the odds are im my favor

Commento di Allakhazam

this guy also drops dazzling longsword if you have a odd group with you, it dropped when the party was paladin,paladin,paladin,paladin,hunter tobad i couldn't win it hehe.. i was the hunter.

Commento di Allakhazam

Easyish to solo with lvl 60 dagger rogue, I'm prep build and usually use two Evasions so I'm on over half hp after the fight.
Died only once, when Herod suddenly hit me for over 1k crit.

Commento di Allakhazam

I tried to solo SM Cathedral with my 60 mage. It was pretty easy (but rather slow) until I reached Mograine. Obviously I kill him (This uses > half of my mana pool) and then he dies, and the priest comes out and start smiting me. I get her down to half (0 mana now) and she ressurects Mograine and then the two of them always kill me. Any advice on how to solo this guy, mages?

Commento di Allakhazam

WTF &*!@ LEVEL 263 USSUALLY ONLY HIGH LORD KRUUL, ONYXIA, AND THE HIGH LORDS OF THE CITYS HAVE THAT LEVEL BUT THOSE THAT I JUST SAID ARE ALL LEVEL 500:D

Commento di Allakhazam

we did it 44lvl warrior and 41lvl paladin
2 people, who can do it solo ? :-)

Commento di Allakhazam

what part of scarlet monestary is he in, armory, graveyard, library, or the cathedral?

Commento di Allakhazam

can a 60 hunter with maderat gear not t1 but stuff from scholo ubrs and strat i need to get the shards from the loot?

Commento di Allakhazam

This is another fun fight. As with the previous boss from the third instance this was completed with the group I used there, we just all got a couple levels ^^ 42 warrior 38 shaman 38 rogue 38 warlock and 36 shaman. You need to clear everything past "the door" before you engage this boss. There are side rooms as well. Clear everything or you will wipe. The fight with this guy is not unlike a normal fight with a Myrm. Just kill him fast and save mana. Once he dies the other 2/3 of the fight begin.

We did this, and won, on the first attempt. Upon his death the final named mob needed for the quest spawns. She will sleep the entire party after a short while. She then calls upon the dead to join her in battle ^^ This is where it got interesting. In any case, we killed her and her new companion, and this quest is over! It's not to bad. Just use teamwork!

Good luck!

Commento di Allakhazam

Here's a tip. Don't mess up.

We tried to 2 man it, cleared chapel and got to the final fight. Killed Mograine, got him rezzed, killed Whitemane, and then we died to the add of a weird roaming spawn (lv40 champion - never seen this before).

Went back in the instance and he was gone.

But 4 roamers were spawned in the chapel, never seen this before either. As far as I can tell these are not respawns since I don't remember seeing any lv40 champions that wandered the whole perimeter of the chapel.

On top of this, there is a resetting timer now.

Can't run out and run back in with a reformed group.

There are also no more chests. Not even in the room Whitemane comes out of. This is apparently due to the fact that rogues were stealthing in to take the chests and resetting the instance over and over.

Hurray for undocumented "improvements".

Edited, Thu Mar 24 08:51:17 2005

Commento di Allakhazam

sadly this has beeen patched over but in older patches the doors to Whitemane were always open... Hunters run in FD in her room and close doors, then kill her and mograine dies easy

Commento di Allakhazam

we did this part with a priest (44) lock (41) mage (43) and me hunter (40).
tank left just before we were near the entrance of the gate. Lazy enough to not search for a new tank and let our pets (lock pet and my pet) tank the whole instance.
and it worked just fine! even Mograine was a piece of cake O+

Commento di Allakhazam

Went in with a pickup group all of us needed the "in the name of the light quest" the group rocked we did all of it very easily and we were all 39. Mograine's Might dropped and got it cant wait to use! Looks awesome and is a huge upgrade. + now i can get the sword from the quest instead which is also a HUGE upgrade from my 18dps 1hander i had. PALLY POWER!

Commento di Allakhazam

take me zannza threw it and ill keep the fing preist dead i hate that bicth and yes lvl 60 hunters can solo this my lvl 60 freind just ran me threw it last night i got to small raident shards with disencanting the blues that wernt any use to use so sugestion u could proble solo this with a lvl 50 hunter and a turtul and dps pets arent teh best my rouge at lvl 35 does more dps

Commento di Allakhazam

You read the title. Clear absolutely EVERYTHING before fighting him. If you don't any remaining mobs in the cathedral (only inside the building) will come and aid him. It will be hell if you leave a few mobs so clear it all! :)

Commento di Allakhazam

I did SM yesterday for the frist time ever with my lvl 70 mate :P (Dhunter is his name, bloody legend he is) anyway the loot in there was fantastic i go there every so often like 3 times a week now and i earn up to 5g per run (thats just in onr place not the whole thing) and i think its great like the fact that grey items sell for like 48s to a vendor and you get 5 or 6 a run its great for xp and loot i highley reccomend doing SM as soon as you can !

Commento di Allakhazam

you must kill EVERYONE inside the building before starting to fight mograine, or they will come and enter the fight and your group will wipe.

you fight mograine and you kill him. whitemane comes out and starts fighting for a bit, then sleeps everyone and resurrects mograine. kill whitemane first because she heals, then kill mograine. it's an easy fight (probably because of all the killing you have to do before), and everything they drop is kickass.

Edited, Apr 4th 2007 4:50am by Slashr

Edited, Apr 4th 2007 5:00am by Slashr

Commento di Allakhazam

We had a group of 3, shaman, warlock, and rogue (all 41). We meticulously pulled 1-3 at a time from the cathedral until we were left with Mograine. You would think all is clear and go right for Mograine, nope. We waited for the roaming guards to respawn, 4 total (random spawns could be any type 37-40).

Step one: Take down Mograine at a somewhat fast rate. Only used about a third of our mana. You could pull him near the door but not outside. That will give you a second or so more time later.

Step two: Whitemane appears through the doors behind the altar. Take her down to half health, don't try to kill her unless you know you can do so in seconds. She sleeps everyone to go res Mograine. FYI neither can be feared, charmed, or taunted.

Step three: Had shaman occupy Mograine while warlock (with felhunter) and rogue took out Whitemane as fast as possible. We had plenty of health and mana left to finish off Mograine.

We are fairly good players in our group and our talents are designed specifically for this group configuration. This is a definite advantage to a pickup group.

Edited, Sun May 29 09:29:07 2005

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